RCMP Info, discussion

[medaid]

What is the selection like for handlers?Do many people get into this line of work?And what would improve your chances?

You've first gotta work with the dogs during training. During the new training phase for new PSD selection you've gotta be there to help out. Most often this is done during you "off" time without pay. You gotta go through different stages to prove that you really want to be a PSD handler, and not to mention physically fit as hell. I've yet to meet a PSD handler whose NOT fit. They run like the freaking wind, and they're agile as hell. I guess that comes with going over and under fences with your partner when he/she dose the tracking.

Not many people want to, not many people make it in. There are only a few kicking around the Lower Mainland as far as the RCMP is concerned. It's a pooled and shared resource.

I don't know what will improve your chances mate. Physically fit, willing to get low and dirty, and oh yeah... be bitten by dogs... lots of em... over... and over... and over again in a Bad Man suit  ;D

 

[X-mo-1979]

You've first gotta work with the dogs during training. During the new training phase for new PSD selection you've gotta be there to help out. Most often this is done during you "off" time without pay. You gotta go through different stages to prove that you really want to be a PSD handler, and not to mention physically fit as hell.

Thanks for the reply.

I guess then it helps on your initial posting to be posted near a training facility?Or do most area's/regions have them?My cousin has been living in Newfoundland for many years doing K-9 work.Is this post more of a static position?

Running like the wind and being agile is my thing.I had a Sheppard as my last dog who was my running partner.

As with ERT do you still need to do 3 years street policing (pardon the terminology,I'm out of my element!)to apply?

There isn't really much info reference this on the site.

Thanks again for the info.

 

[jbfe1]

:nod: Has anyone gone RCMP and transferred there military pension over. If so, can anyone explane the process.

 

[bick]

When you are about a month from graduation of Depot, you fill in all sorts of forms (insurance, dental etc).  One of these is a statement of past federal service.  This form is self explainatory.  I had 3 months of militia time, which I had paid back, and 15 and a half yrs of Reg F.  I filled in all of this service and once the transfer of funds was complete, received a cheque for my militia time.  The explanation was only full time service counted.  BTW, you can also transfer ypour RCMP pension back to the CFSA.....done that too.

 

[noneck]

Further to what Bick stated, make sure that you complete this paperwork in Depot and make a copy of it. You will then be buying back at your initial entry level Cst. rate of pay. If you wait till later or they lose the paperwork (Our pension is outsourced and managed by Morneau Sobeco they are impossible to deal with) you WILL pay it back at the rate you are being paid at that time. I should preface that this mostly applies to folks with a lot of PRes time.

Noneck

 

[mariomike]

Diversity versus Merit:

"Finding the best Mounties: Stop the RCMP from playing politically correct games with recruitment. For years now, there have been unofficial quotas on hiring female and visible minority candidates.":
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/11/25/national-post-editorial-board-finding-the-best-mounties.aspx

 

[Anon]

Hi,

I am planning on joining the RCMP. I have already written and passed the "written test". I was wondering about the polygraph test. If you have in fact, for example, done drugs, stolen, or EVEN engaged in beastiality, and you are completly honest, will you still pass? I am asking this because I have stolen in the past,  and I was wondering if it would be a problem.

P.S: I plan on being honest when it comes to the poly.

 

[xena]

A buddy of mine went RCMP a few years back, and the gist of what I got was that they're looking for honesty (and therefore reliability) rather than sainthood.

It would also depend on what one stole, i.e. the severity of the offense.  Making a career out of jacking cars and delivering them to chop shops would be a far more serious issue than pocketing candy in the grocery store when one was 12.

 

[mariomike]

A few links that may be of interest:
http://www.numberswatchdog.com/Numbers%20docs%20NOV%2008/RCMP%20recruits%20grilled%20on%20sex%20drugs%20and%20suicide.pdf
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/recruiting-recrutement/documents/Polygraph_e.pdf
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/recruiting-recrutement/howtojoin-commentvousenroler/applynow-recrutement-eng.htm#step5
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/recruiting-recrutement/resources-ressources/preparatoryguides-guidespreparatoires-eng.htm#Polygraph
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/recruiting-recrutement/documents/5096e_090223%20FINAL.pdf

 

[Greymatters]

Diversity versus Merit:

"Finding the best Mounties: Stop the RCMP from playing politically correct games with recruitment. For years now, there have been unofficial quotas on hiring female and visible minority candidates.":
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/11/25/national-post-editorial-board-finding-the-best-mounties.aspx

If the RCMP doesnt set their own bars in regard to gender, ethnicity and visibility, (etc...) they will find themselves told how many of each group they have to recruit - this happened within the DND in regard to english-french composition and gender ratios...

 

[zipperhead_cop]

Hi,

I am planning on joining the RCMP. I have already written and passed the "written test". I was wondering about the polygraph test. If you have in fact, for example, done drugs, stolen, or EVEN engaged in beastiality, and you are completly honest, will you still pass? I am asking this because I have stolen in the past,  and I was wondering if it would be a problem.

P.S: I plan on being honest when it comes to the poly.

Honest or not, I can PROMISE you if you have engaged in beastiality you will not make it.  Hopefully you are trying to be funny.

 

[stukirkpatrick]

Yes, the polygraph is to determine your honest/reliability, but that doesn't mean that owning up to bad things automatically gets you off the hook with the interviewer.

Not to discourage anyone from applying but if you admit to a serious offence, criminal or otherwise you may not just be just denied in the application process, but a criminal investigation may subsequently be initiated. 

As to Anon's example of stealing, it would depend on how long ago, the circumstances, the dollar value and outcome (did you give it back?? - or otherwise make amends?).

 

[mariomike]

If the RCMP doesnt set their own bars in regard to gender, ethnicity and visibility, (etc...) they will find themselves told how many of each group they have to recruit

Same in the Emergency Services.
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/2000/agendas/council/cc/cc000704/adm14rpt/cl006.pdf

 

[blacktriangle]

I hate it with a passion. Do they pull that same crap in the states? What about Australia? Europe?

 

[Greymatters]

Same in the Emergency Services.
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/2000/agendas/council/cc/cc000704/adm14rpt/cl006.pdf

Perfect example, thanks for providing...

 

[mariomike]

( The Taser thread is locked, so I put it here. )

Update:
CBC Friday, June 18, 2010:
"RCMP wrong to use Taser on Dziekanski: report: The final inquiry report on the death of Robert Dziekanski has concluded the RCMP were not justified in using a Taser against the Polish immigrant.":
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/06/17/bc-dziekanski-braidwood-report.html

"VANCOUVER - The B.C. government will immediately appoint a special prosecutor to review the possibility of charges against four RCMP officers involved in Robert Dziekanski's death, in light of a public inquiry report that delivers a searing indictment of their actions.":
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100618/national/taser_inquiry

 

[mariomike]

June 29, 2010:
"Crown may reconsider charges in Dziekanski case: The Crown should review a decision not to charge the four RCMP officers involved in the death of Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver's airport in 2007, says a special prosecutor.":
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/06/29/bc-dziekanski-special-prosecutor-recommendation.html

 

[mariomike]

Sep. 24, 2010
Globe and Mail
Re: Recruiting:
"Under new hiring benchmarks set this month, senior Mounties say that new classes of recruits should comprise 30 per cent women, 20 per cent visible minorities and 10 per cent aboriginals,":
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/mounties-to-recruit-for-women-and-minorities/article1722639/

 

[Neill McKay]

Sep. 24, 2010
Globe and Mail
Re: Recruiting:
"Under new hiring benchmarks set this month, senior Mounties say that new classes of recruits should comprise 30 per cent women, 20 per cent visible minorities and 10 per cent aboriginals,":
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/mounties-to-recruit-for-women-and-minorities/article1722639/

I wonder how closely those proportions match the applicant pool?  Until the pool catches up (assuming as I do that it isn't there yet) it seems as though it's almost an open job offer for any qualified applicant in the designated groups.

 

[mariomike]

I wonder how closely those proportions match the applicant pool?  Until the pool catches up (assuming as I do that it isn't there yet) it seems as though it's almost an open job offer for any qualified applicant in the designated groups.

National Post editorial from last November:
"Finding the best Mounties":
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/11/25/national-post-editorial-board-finding-the-best-mounties.aspx


"For too long, many good potential recruits have not even bothered to apply for RCMP positions, knowing that since they were not one of the favoured groups being sought by the sensitivity guidelines of the moment, their chances of being accepted were slim to nil."